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July 22, 2008
The Shapes Of States
Interview with Mark Stein, author of How the States Got Their Shapes


Mike Carruthers:
When you look at a map of the United States, you see a series of lines dividing one state from another. How those lines got there is fascinating.

Mark Stein:
There was a difference between the ways England created the colonies (which became our first thirteen states) and the way Congress did it after the Revolution.

Mark Stein, author of the book How the States Got Their Shapes

And the difference is that when England did it, it simply was not on the King's (or in one case the Queen's) screen that all colonies should be created equal. If it behooved them to create a little colony called Rhode Island to ease a problem in Massachusetts they would do that and not care that Rhode Island was much, much smaller. When Congress took over the function after the Revolution, the guiding principal was all states should be created equal.

Which is why as you look west of the original thirteen states they start to look more uniform and the boundaries are straighter. Sometimes a river is a state's boundary but where exactly is the line and which state does the river belong to?

It does differ; sometimes the line is down the middle of the channel. In the case of Maryland and Virginia the entire Potomac River is in Maryland. There are actually teeny little parts of Delaware that are across the Delaware River from Delaware and attached to New Jersey but they are parts of Delaware because they were dumped there in dredging operations. And the entire Delaware River in that segment belongs to Delaware.

Tomorrow, why Vermont almost wasn't - I'm Mike Carruthers and that's Something You Should Know.

 
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